She is saying, in the context, that although the "Deity" Father included did not suffer and die on the Cross, nevertheless God the Father gave His Son to die for us, and what agony that must have been --watching Him die. Here EGW is clearly contrasting the role of the Son with the rest of the Godhead and it is this Godhead to which the word "Deity" refers in this instance. In summary, was Jesus Deity? Are the Father and Holy Spirit Deity? This is simply a case where a word like the word "law" for example is used different ways. But Christ gave his life that man should have another trial.
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He did not die on the cross to abolish the law of God, but to secure for man a second probation" Testimonies to Ministers, p. The three Bible texts given are wonderful truths about the gospel, but they do not address nor refute the issue in Ellen White's statement at all. Here are four that support what she said: "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die , even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh : That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.
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For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Daniel referring to the purifying of the earth, it was now plain that it pointed to the closing work of our High Priest in heaven, the finishing of the atonement, and the preparing of the people to abide the day of His coming" Testimonies, vol.
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus and [sic] fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood" Romans For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation" Romans Bible: Yes "Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Again the texts chosen are wonderful truths, but they do not address what our High Priest is doing for us in heaven at this moment.
The second one says that we are justified freely, and that Jesus was a sacrifice of atonement.
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He was definitely that. This is the only text of the four that even has the word "atone" or "atonement" in it. The third and fourth texts say that we have been reconciled to God through Jesus. No one should ever question this fact. All of these facts are embraced by Ellen White in her writings and Adventists in their beliefs.
They are in perfect harmony with the Investigative Judgment starting in The subject of the Investigative Judgmentin no way contradicts the Bible. It is a Bible study all in itself and for the sake of space we will not go through that entire study here. The "atonement" in regard to Jesus taking our sins completely from us when we confess them and cleansing us with His blood is indeed complete and Ellen White taught this see Review and Herald , Nov.
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But God has a plan to end the "sin problem" forever, and that does indeed involve more than blanket forgiveness. Christians readily acknowledge that Jesus' work for us isn't "finished" in every sense, for the Bible says He still makes intercession for us on a daily basis Hebrews ; Romans He still has a judgment to perform Acts ; Romans And He still must rescue His faithful children from a dying planet John ; Matthew Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him" Romans This allegation is a re-wording of the last one and again, one needs to study the Investigative Judgment for one's self to understand the validity of it.
A few quotes will not shed much light on the issue. Any Bible student would be blessed by studying the matter. Both Ellen White and Adventists, however, do reject the teaching of "once saved always saved" for the Bible does not teach it. EGW: Yes "As the sins of the people were anciently transferred in figure, to the earthly sanctuary by the blood of the sin-offering, so our sins are, in fact, transferred to the heavenly sanctuary by the blood of Christ.
Bible: No "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. This allegation also deals with the Investigative Judgment. The texts used to refute Ellen White only support what she had said in the quotes listed.
EGW: SATAN "It was seen, also, that while the sin offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scapegoat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed. Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, Another Investigative Judgment statement.
If one rejects the Investigative Judgment or the Sabbath, or soul sleep in death, or the Flood for that matter then that person will be able to find plenty of Ellen White statements that are apparently "wrong". Jesus paid the price for our sins, but Satan is responsible for tempting us to sin. If Jesus wants Satan to pay a price for that, that is His decision.
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Again, we suggest the reader study the Day of Atonement and read Clifford Goldstein's book on this subject. In these cases the best you can do is to bring a trespass offering to the altar of the Lord, and He will accept and pardon you" Testimonies, vol. We recommend reading the entire section of Testimonies , Vol. Ellen White was writing to a man who had a problem with money and dishonesty. Apparently he had wronged some people financially and some of them, over the years, had died. Ellen White then refers the man to Zacchaeus and his Christian act of vowing to pay back fourfold of all that he had wrongfully taken.
If we have gotten financial gain from taking advantage of others and breaking God's law in the process, of course we are to restore to them all that we have taken. And if they and their relatives are gone, then we should restore this money to God. There should be something coming out of what we have gained. We cannot steal from a wealthy man and then accept Christ, but insist on continuing to live the good life on money that we wrongfully acquired. Ellen White's point is that the money should first and foremost go to the one s that have been wronged, but if that isn't possible, then we should turn the money over to God.
A reading of the entire section would clear up any confusion as to what Ellen White meant. That's not the issue here; EGW was talking to a particular individual who had a particular problem. She was by no means saying this is the way we come to Christ—with a financial offering. EGW contradicts the Bible by telling you to bring a trespass offering in order to be pardoned. Ellen White does not tell "you" to bring a trespass offering in order to be pardoned. EGW: NO "Those who accept the Saviour, however sincere their conversion, should never be taught to say or feel that they are saved.
Those who accept Christ, and in their first confidence say, I am saved, are in danger of trusting to themselves" Christ's Object Lessons, p.
Self-confidence led him to the belief that he was saved, and step after step was taken in the downward path, until he could deny his Master. Never can we safely put confidence in self or feel, this side of heaven, that we are secure against temptation. Those who accept the Saviour, however sincere their conversion, should never be taught to say or to feel that they are saved. This is misleading. Every one should be taught to cherish hope and faith; but even when we give ourselves to Christ and know that He accepts us, we are not beyond the reach of temptation.
God's word declares, "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried. Only he who endures the trial will receive the crown of life. James They lose sight of their own weakness and their constant need of divine strength. They are unprepared for Satan's devices, and under temptation many, like Peter, fall into the very depths of sin.
We are admonished, "Let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall.